I know you wanted to end, but I really wanted to say this:

Our energy would be better spent to try and get some legal rights for license purchases that replace a sale of a physical disc.

It seems to me the issue isn’t exclusive to Sony. It is a digital problem for all media types, games included. I would imagine you might agree with that.

Cheers.

You can still buy them online, so no difference really. Just not on disc, so nothing is stopping people from buying new ones.

“you don’t own the hardware” that’s nonsense, it is the only thing in the console gaming equation that you do own

Let me repeat: you do NOT own the hardware. I mean you own a piece of plastic. You can use it as a boat anchor anytime you want I guess. That’s it.

Sony has been forcing console upgrades since the ps3 when you buy a new disc. Sony has also revoked the ability to use discs they sold with the console, also during the ps3 era.

Given that none of this is new, they knew this going in on the ps5. They knew third party publishing on disc was not allowed. They willingly entered this eco system, so I really don’t understand the surprise at all.

By the way: Sony isn’t ending physical disc manufacture on new games until 2028. Older games, released prior to 2028 are allowed reprints even after that. This should give people time to decide if they want to continue down this road now.

It is the level of anger that throws me off. So fucking what? Sony is a shit company with a constant anti consumer history. Quit bitching about it and quit supporting it.

Your arguments are not unsound, but yelling at sony isn’t how they are going to fix it. Stop buying their products will. Most people aren’t going to care, they are used to downloading games and updates already. People who love merch buy the fan box sets. Sony knows people will still buy their products.

It affects the existing products by rendering them worthless if the customer were only buying physical games.

They already have the games they bought, so they aren’t worthless. They just don’t get to buy new ones on disc. Sony already has been selling digital for years.

Simply buy no more games. Everything you already have works the same as it did before.

I never understood this “sell a console later” concept, so I guess that is on me. But that also is not Sony’s problem. They are under no obligation to keep a console worth anything, and frankly their business model would suggest its in their best interest to make you buy the next model anyways.

I think everything you are describing is why they never should have bought a console in the first place: you don’t own the hardware. Sony already forces updates for new games and has the ability to kill the old games, whether you have the plastic disc or not. People never seemed to learn that this is normal for Sony. Don’t buy their products.

How does it affect existing products?

Also, nothing new with Sony by the way.

I forgot about that! Yet another good reason.

I think you missed the point…

Days Gone on PC

I liked it too, but I liked it even better after the simple mod to make it first person. Which I don’t think a PS5 could go.

I need to get them to give me more plastic so I can throw more money at them!

sony is fucking over its customers

not really no. Sorry. At least no different than they ever had.

Push back? Why? Grow up and just don’t buy their stuff. How hard is this?

I learned my lesson with the PS3, what took you so long?

You just don’t buy the product?

It is so weird, these people are arguing over the ability to keep a piece of plastic so they can then throw more money at Sony. For entertainment.

I didn’t see that part. But then you hooked it up anyways?

Kde made double click default, it used to be single click.

Put it back to single click. So much better.

Adjust focus stealing to your liking.

Adjust the color and width of the shadow to make active windows obvious in a dark theme.

Wobbly windows: but set higher than default.

I miss window shade. Hopefully it gets worked out and returns.

Why would you even buy that? Nothing seems more dumb than a smart fridge.

Except there are lots of good reasons to hate HDMI.

So reluctantly using HDMI is more appropriate.

20 percent? That sounds like 100 percent people don’t want to pay for it anymore.

However, I must ask you: do you acknowledge that there is good design in this world, capable of making people of all kind (technical and casuals) understand and enjoy more the software they chose?

Sure. And lots of times we already have it. Then someone comes along and decides to do something like this common practice: dumb things down to the lowest common denominator and make a desktop interface that would appear to appease people who are used to mobile, which ends up alienating both desktop and mobile and is not good for either group. So many examples of this.

Of course not everyone is easy to please, which is why I like FOSS. People say “clean, modern, or dated”, and half the time it just looks like wasted space, more effort, and hidden features to me. Sometimes even removing them for the sake of “clean”.

But I can’t argue that there were people who really put in the effort to polish and make consistent (mostly) the desktop environs like Gnome and KDE, or even applications that are not easy to learn, like Blender.

And I could never argue against patterns that are necessary for accessibility.

You know what is kind of nice? The fact that I have multiple ways to view lemmy with a variety of interfaces, but the back end is the same. There is something to be said for: logic in the backend, presentation in the front end. Typical of good FOSS applications.

The other person did ask me. Then you come in and start swearing and swinging insults.

You might very well be the type of person I do not want an opinion from. You contributed nothing to this conversation and had nothing to say, but boy you wanted to be loud about it.

Edit: And I have to say, look at my comments. I am open to the fact that UI and UX is maturing, that the pressures are different in FOSS projects, and I am somewhat hopeful. You have to admit there have been some rough decisions when leaving well enough alone was just fine.

As for the users: did you forget this?

No it is not ignorant. You are ignorant, LOL!

So many people get a bunch of artsy crap ideas and then implement them breaking simple easy to use workflows. You cannot convince me other wise.

On the other hand, I did mention that to keep their jobs there is churn, and you just mentioned one of the reasons for it, execs are a problem.

But I can point to lots of projects that were given a team and time. Particularly worse if they asked users what they wanted because they are some of the biggest morons to ask in the first place.

UX and UI specialists is how you get the crap that is foisted on us today.

Famous example when you unleash them on a project: Windows 8.

I will admit it is a knee jerk reaction, and it seems like maybe we are turning a corner to refinement over mass changes.

One of the major issues with paid software and UX and UI designers is that in order to keep a job, they keep making changes. And nothing is worse than making changes to customary patterns.

Perhaps FOSS wouldnt have that problem, as the job is labor of love. Who knows.