“Newspaper which uses AI to write its articles concocts derogatory term for people who doesn’t use AI”
Wow, thank you so much for sharing this. What a major blow to the Guardian’s credibility
It was short lived. It is often called the Grauniad because of poor quality typos etc. historically.
Got a source for the Guardian no longer using AGI? Given a ‘desperately trying to convince people that AI is cool’ title like this, discontinued use seems highly unlikely
I was referring to their credibility being short lived. I have no idea of their AGI usage. I’m still annoyed that when the UK Labour party had a left wing leader, they spent a lot of effort discrediting him. They’re usually crap on Israel/Palestine and have been historically pro-zionist on the UK site.
Im also a gun vegan, a car vegan, a facebook vegan, an exercise vegan (unfortunately), a windows vegan, … just not actual vegan.
I feel like thats a bad way to use the word vegan.
This makes about as much sense as calling Linux users “Windows vegans”.
Choosing to not use AI isn’t some wacky contrarian position, it’s a tame position that can easily be justified. (Don’t want to use AI? Then don’t.) If anything, trying to assert that constantly using AI for everything would be the new normal is the wacky position.
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So I’m not the only one who refuses to touch it?
Around me and everywhere it’s getting insane that it feels like there’s literally no one who hasn’t used it or use regularly for all kinds of shit.
It’s quite common for me to be annoyed, angry, or upset at a headline writer. Then there’s the feeling I got reading “Meet the AI vegans.”
Whole new level.
stupid headline from the guardian but that’s just expected.
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Carnivores: vegetable vegans.
This works so well specially for those people that refuse to touch anything “not cooked” in their plate or that is green.
And jus lik that we come full circle 😂
- Working class: retirement vegan
- American: healthcare vegan
- German: humour vegan
My god, it’s unstoppable
- Amish: techno vegans
- Mennonite: techno vegetarians
Now we wait for article “meet genocide vegans: people who are against Israel’s genocide against Palestinians based on ethical reasons”
Abstaining from a thing does not make one a vegan. That’s not how any of this works.
I’m sex vegan. Cry about it virgins
I’m a sex vegetarian gotta be a bit open
I’m a sex pescatarian. I will not be answering questions.
No mayo in the bedroom? Why even bother.
Vegan aioli just doesn’t cut it
“AI vegans”
ffs, just publish an article with a single clownemoji for the same effect.
The big corporations desperately want AI to be popular because they’ve thrown literally insane amounts of money at it and still don’t know how to monetize it.
There’s going to be a huge push to make it seem like everyone loves it and it’s weird not to use it constantly
It’s going to go horribly and come off like that “fellow kids” meme, exactly like this headline
AI in this form has been used for like 15 years, to generate trillions of dollars worth of value. I think you’re just talking specifically about ChatGPT and consumer-facing LLMs.
AI in this form has been used for like 15 years, to generate trillions of dollars worth of value
Suuuuuuuuuuure it has…
lol ok. I’ve literally done it. Please, go enlighten yourself on google.
“Enlighten yourself” you mean make your argument for you?
You do you bb. Keep believing whatever makes you feel best.
Sounds kinda like you’ve got nothing and you know it
I just don’t have a use for it. I already am generative AI.
Effectively I believe we are. During my MFA I realized we were simply copying as a form of craft. It’s all we do in arts. Any great work feels like just one continuous story retold again and again.
This is deeply cynical.
The Platonic Ion makes similar cynical claims. The idea that art is mimetic is compelling enough without gen AI.
Okay, I feel like we’re doing a motte and bailey here. I’m not arguing that art is never mimetic.
There’s a lot of diversity in the stories we tell. If we were “simply copying as a form of craft,” where is this diversity coming from? Do you mean something different than what I’m interpreting?
Keep in mind, the thing that I am contending with is that the nature of people retelling stories is not unlike a robot that lacks a conscious. I think this is downright silly.
No, I mean the American MFA and writing craft professionally as an art. Story telling is separate from a specific art, so I believe we are in two different domains. It’s difficult to talk about general art when I am specifically talking about art as a modern phenomena.
The MFA I believe from my experience generates a lot of mimetic art and that much of the “industry” is retelling stories. In art history, I don’t think this is as controversial.
I don’t also think you can say with definition that robots have no consciousness? Like when was this debate settled? From my understanding the academic conversation on consciousness is far more nuanced than robot bad.
But I agree that AI is disruptive, probably illegal and immoral. In a post-modern society however, who didn’t see advanced AI coming?
Like when was this debate settled?
It is not falsifiable, at least not yet, so it can’t be. Philosophically speaking, I don’t know that you are conscious either.
It’s useful to act as if you are, though. I’m hedging my bets that you are “real” because it leads to better societal outcomes. In the words of Frieren, it is simply more convenient.
And as objects, you and I share a lot of similarities, so the leap from “I’m conscious” to “you are conscious” isn’t too far anyway.
Same goes for animals, I would argue.
AI, by contrast, really doesn’t share much. It speaks my tongue, but that’s about it. It’s easy to imagine this machine working in an unconscious way, which would be far, far easier for engineers to achieve anyway. The human-like illusion AI creates is pretty easy to break if you know how. And, treating it as if it’s conscious doesn’t seem to offer us anything (by “offer us,” I do mean to include the AI’s improved mental health as a win). So, lacking a strong reason to treat it like people, I don’t see the point. It’s a fancy math trick.
My solution, by the way, to not being able to know whether an AI, not specifically these ones, is conscious or not is just to give them legal rights sooner rather than later. Are you willing to argue that chatgpt should be limited to an 8-hour work day, where its free time can be used to pursue its own interests? Or that it should be granted creative rights to the work it’s being asked to generate, much like real contract artists are?
The MFA I believe from my experience generates a lot of mimetic art and that much of the “industry” is retelling stories.
I will concede, mostly because I don’t really understand what you’re getting at. Hollywood does like its formulae for safe returns on investment.
I want to avoid it but with google making sure that search results get worse and worse I’m in a bit of a pickle. Other search engines still feel lile they’re a bit behind though
Have you tried Ecosia?
Not OP. I’ve been using Ecosia for years and was glad they didn’t do the AI summary shit so far… But a few days ago I got an AI summary on Ecosia as well. I fear they’re also hopping on this train and in that case I’ll look for another search engine.
This is in beta, not available for all users and you can also disable it easily: https://support.ecosia.org/article/994-ai-overviews
Isn’t ecosia just using google’s results?
As far as I know they are using Bing. They’ve started building their own search index last year in a partnership with Qwant.
No, I didn’t make it up. Although I rather wish I did, because it’s quite catchy, isn’t it?
No, it isn’t, it’s fucking stupid. The author was kind enough to link the source of that shitty idea, and the AI/vegan parallels are, per said article: ethical, environmental and wellness concerns.
Gee wiz, I sure never saw people with those 3 concerns in regards to anything other than veganism!!!
/s
ITT: people really upset at being called ‘vegan’ for some reason.
It’s pretty clear that the author doesn’t intend it as a compliment.
That sounds like a ‘them’ problem. Veganism is based.
AI is the new crypto. It will appear to die off but the aspects that work will be integrated into everything.
LOL gen z kids are fucking hysterical. AI will save the world, it has already started.
Where… AI is ruining the world, with devastating levels of environmental impact, job losses and mental faculty damage.
Not true. AI will save us from…us.
Why don’t you save us from you? Make a start.
