here’s another pithy, cliched statement for you. copyright and intellectual property is capitalist nonsense that should be ignored. ideas can’t be owned. what’s yours is mine, and what’s mine is yours. nobody owns any media. the only ethical issue with AI is that nothing should be sold, whether it’s made with AI or not.
the argument you are using enables corporations to steal the work and labour of individuals.
so your problem is with capitalism, and not this fictional “theft” of art.
It is the argument that means only middle class wealthy individuals get to make art.
nobody is stopping anyone from making art.
It’s a shite argument, and it’s been debunked a ton of times.
if that makes you sleep better, then you do you. I don’t really mind if some liberal I’ll never meet wants to claim nonsense that’ll never affect me on the internet. ideas are free, they belong to everyone, and I’ll keep copying and using digital media in whatever way I want.
It’s a shame that 6 years ago, lemmy would have agreed with you. They forgot that copyright is bad suddenly because of a new invention. Copyright needs to be abolished, it’s a hold over from pre-capitalism.
most people who “pirate” aren’t doing it for a massive profit, unlike these AI companies. it’s morally reprehensible that AI companies are taking other people’s work, often copyrighted, and selling their stolen data for a massive profit. if fuckerberg can pirate TERABYTES of ebooks, my downloading of some movies should not be illegal.
But surely something has to be said for taking ones work, repackaging it, claiming it’s yours, and selling it as a product, no?
sure, and that something is that copyright and intellectual property is capitalist nonsense. nobody “owns” ideas, and the only ethical issue with AI is that nothing should ever be sold, whether it’s made with AI or not.
piracy isn’t theft.
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here’s another pithy, cliched statement for you. copyright and intellectual property is capitalist nonsense that should be ignored. ideas can’t be owned. what’s yours is mine, and what’s mine is yours. nobody owns any media. the only ethical issue with AI is that nothing should be sold, whether it’s made with AI or not.
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I know exactly what it means, I was using it sarcastically to make fun of your rather stupid argument.
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it’s working fine. thank you.
so your problem is with capitalism, and not this fictional “theft” of art.
nobody is stopping anyone from making art.
if that makes you sleep better, then you do you. I don’t really mind if some liberal I’ll never meet wants to claim nonsense that’ll never affect me on the internet. ideas are free, they belong to everyone, and I’ll keep copying and using digital media in whatever way I want.
It’s a shame that 6 years ago, lemmy would have agreed with you. They forgot that copyright is bad suddenly because of a new invention. Copyright needs to be abolished, it’s a hold over from pre-capitalism.
But surely something has to be said for taking ones work, repackaging it, claiming it’s yours, and selling it as a product, no?
Point being that I think just calling it “piracy” seems a bit reductive…
most people who “pirate” aren’t doing it for a massive profit, unlike these AI companies. it’s morally reprehensible that AI companies are taking other people’s work, often copyrighted, and selling their stolen data for a massive profit. if fuckerberg can pirate TERABYTES of ebooks, my downloading of some movies should not be illegal.
I agree, you downloading some movies should not be illegal, especially if they are more than a few years old.
That it is illegal doesnt make training a network theft, nothing was taken away from anyone. Other than their expections of rental income from “IP”.
sure, and that something is that copyright and intellectual property is capitalist nonsense. nobody “owns” ideas, and the only ethical issue with AI is that nothing should ever be sold, whether it’s made with AI or not.