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    one of them is a free country , the other one is occupied by USA

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      That’s not hyperbole by the way, the military in the south is literally under US command. In September 1945, the US Army Military Government in Korea (USAMGIK) took over the southern half of the peninsula. It ruled for three full years, outlawed local people’s committees, and kept using the old Japanese colonial bureaucracy. That is a textbook military occupation. When the Korean War broke out in 1950, the US provided 90 percent of all combat forces and placed the South Korean military under the operational control of an American general. There weren’t even any elections under the occupation until the late 80s. It was a literal dictatorship.

      That control has never truly gone away. Today, South Korea is under de facto US military occupation. The US runs Camp Humphreys, the largest overseas US base on the planet, with its own postal service and currency. More importantly, the US controlled Combined Forces Command holds wartime operational control over the entire South Korean military. If fighting resumes, Seoul’s army does not answer to Seoul, but to a four star American general. And a US dominated UN Command still publicly dictates what South Korea’s parliament can legislate near the DMZ.

      Under the current Combined Forces Command structure, if war breaks out tomorrow, every South Korean soldier would automatically answer to an American commander without Seoul’s consent. It is a 70‑year‑old military subordination that the US has repeatedly delayed transferring. As of May 2026, the US insists on “conditions‑based” transfer and opposes a “politically convenient” timeline. South Korea’s president himself is pushing back against this delay. A foreign general holding final command over a sovereign nation’s military in wartime is, by any definition, continuing military occupation.

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    Ah yes North Korea. Known across the world for its championing of human rights and robust free thinking society.

    You ever see the videos where they shoot at women and children who try to escape?

    You can see it clearly on many widely available videos and photographs that they do this.

    Such a great prosperous country needs to force people by gun point to stay?

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      Defecting to a country at war with the DPRK is treason, just like how the ROK treats those defecting to the DPRK. This isn’t especially uncommon. People from the DPRK leave and visit Russia and China frequently, the biggest obstacle to movement isn’t the WPK but instead US sanctions.

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        The true hallmark of a free society.

        Us sanctions affect things a little but when you shoot people for trying to swim or run out of your country are sanctions really what’s keeping your people trapped?

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          US sanctions have been devastating and de facto mean people from the DPRK are not free to travel. The only countries they can to to are ones that don’t give a shit about sanctions, like Russia and China. The people aren’t trapped by the WPK, but by the US Empire.

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            So the USA is the one shooting those kids and women in the back?

            That’s wild. Every single video that you can watch with your own eyes shows them to be North Korean guards.

            Agree that US swings its dick around a lot though. Cuba is more of a victim of this than North Korea but its wild because a Cuban can leave without getting shot in the back, despite crippling sanctions.

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              People from the DPRK do leave it, they just can’t defect to the ROK legally. You keep claiming there are hundreds of videos of troops from the DPRK killing civilians defecting, but it’s often ROK troops shooting them. Cuba is not at war with anyone, and both Cuba and the DPRK are harmed by sanctions, the major reason the DPRK is doing better is because it has nuclear deterrence.

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              if you’re an american, the federal gov’t is legally obligated, to share cia/fbi/state department/etc. files through a system called the freedom of information act.

              do yourself a favor and read those files and learn about how they have openly created propaganda about north korea to get you to believe what you just wrote.

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                For sure the US government produces propaganda I know this to be true. And for sure some of that is about NK.

                However, am I supposed to just close my eyes and plug my ears when I can see actual evidence of what I just wrote with my own two eyeballs and that has sources from many countries around the world some of them that also hate the USA?

                Wtf is that about? Lol I’m not saying everything that is said about NK is true there’s dumb shit all the time but dude you can SEE what I am talking about.

                You guys are aware that people in other countries can use the internet freely right? I don’t understand how you can expect people to ignore something they can see happening.

                Its like the way they try to say Israel is right in what they do and aren’t doing a genoice and you can just look up on google maps where they’ve razed all of Gaza.

                You can see that shit lol propaganda worked better before people could just instantly pull up photographs and videos of the truth.

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                  However, am I supposed to just close my eyes and plug my ears when I can see actual evidence of what I just wrote with my own two eyeballs and that has sources from many countries around the world some of them that also hate the USA?

                  You never provided any of this, lol. We cannot see what you’re talking about.

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                  if you read those files and you will learn how they manufacture those things that you’re seeing with your eyes and hearing with your ears.

                  these facts been public record since the 1970’s and the american gov’t itself confirms that it’s true; stop embarrassing yourself and read the files.

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    There is a German saying that goes like: “Ob du dumm bist hab ich gefragt?”