LG denies its TVs constantly record owners' conversations for advertising data.
  • friend_of_satan@lemmy.worldEnglish
    141·
    2 months ago

    LOL, it’s literally in their TOS that it’s the TV owner’s responsibility to inform others that their voice may be recorded by their TV, and when somebody goes on youtube and informs everybody that their voice may be recorded they freak out.

    • Semperverus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      2 months ago

      Normalizing this kind of thing is not okay. It doesn’t matter if its in the TOS, it shouldn’t be a technology in the first place.

    • mctoasterson@reddthat.comEnglish
      3·
      2 months ago

      “We own your TV screen, and the contents of your TV screen.”

      By their license agreement, whether you watch normie content, use the screen to display proprietary business presentations, use it to show family photos from a USB stick, or screen that private adult video you made with your wife, LG can technically analyze all that stuff, serve you ads based off it, or sell it (or provide it) to third parties including the authorities.

    • dermanus@lemmy.caEnglish
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      2 months ago

      That’s such nonsense. We really need some sort of “reasonable person” standard for terms of service. It’s common knowledge people don’t read them, so companies feel free to insert whatever bullshit they want because why not?

      Unless you’re advertising your TV’s ability to listen to conversations, putting an expectation on me to tell people the walls are listening is not reasonable.

      Subscribing to Disney plus does not mean I agree to arbitration if your negligence kills someone at a theme park.

      I should not be entered into a one sided irrevocable contract because I bought a TV and plugged it in.

    • chunk6235@piefed.socialEnglish
      1·
      2 months ago

      Yeah, and companies aren’t notorious for burying heinous shit like this in their TOS so that when they get caught doing it, some idiot will jump up to say “ItS iN tHeIr ToS”

    • cley_faye@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 months ago

      Especially if said denials comes after evidence that they’re doing it in the first place. I wonder what was their train of thoughts here.

  • sapphironZA@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    2 months ago

    These companies should not be allowed to write their terms of service anymore.

    There should be a generic, consumer and company neutral terms of use that all devices and manufacturers need to adhere to.

  • Seaguy05@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    2 months ago

    Surprise surprise… By default you’re opted-in. I dunno probably, I didn’t read the article.

    • loke@fedia.io
      1·
      2 months ago

      It’s opt in, but tge article explains that it’s nestled among a bunch of eulas that you have to click through, so unless you obsessively check which checkboxes don’t have to be checked, you’re going to find yourself opted in.

  • procat1234@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    2 months ago

    What did they specifically mean by “opt-in” ? Does simply purchasing the hardware mean you opted in?

    • the_q@piefed.socialEnglish
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      2 months ago

      It means whatever they want it to. There is no meaningful consequence to their action so it’ll keep happening.

    • NOT_RICK@lemmy.worldEnglish
      0·
      2 months ago

      I have an LG tv. They ask you to sign a EULA any time the voice command button is pressed on the remote. I hit it by accident sometimes and reject the terms

      • TheRealKuni@piefed.socialEnglish
        0·
        2 months ago

        It’s so fucking annoying how often they ask to spy on you. Very much a dark pattern. Pretty shitty of them. Made me buy an Apple TV so I don’t ever have to use their remote and risk their bullshit.

        I will never buy another LG product. Which is sad, because the panel is very nice.

  • ShredderFeeder@shredderfood.netEnglish
    1·
    2 months ago

    When I saw this I checked my TV ubiquiti for traffic and sure enough there it was…but blocked by ubiquiti by default… I guess that’s a qualified win.

    And I have specifically NOT opted in.

  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    2 months ago

    Just like your FB, TikTok, or Instagram app on your phone, by accepting the terms and using the software, you agree to the privacy violations that come along with it. (At least for now) Though, oddly, Texas (and even more oddly, Ken Paxton) have a lawsuit pending to curtail it.

    I made a video on it for my channel if anyone’s interested.

    I can say, as an LGTV owner, you don’t have to opt in and your TV will still work as a TV. You just won’t have access to the online features, and knowing how much data you give up by connecting your TV to a wireless network, you shouldn’t be giving it network access anyway.

    • village604@adultswim.fanEnglish
      1·
      2 months ago

      Texas Republicans occasionally get it right, like banning AI for universities that uses category 1 data.

      Hell, Abbot vetoed like 4 bills banning hemp derived THC.

      A broken clock is right twice a day.