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Cake day: January 26th, 2024

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  • I’m tired of this constant fuckai spam. AI slop this, AI slop that. AI slop impacts me almost not at all, while the constant hate mongering by fuckai is getting on my nerve.

    Not a SINGLE “AI artist” ever “looked at you like this”. You are building a strawman as the target of your hate because you can’t do anything else with it. Are we a society defined by hate now?


  • Yeah I totally agree with you. From what I’ve seen only China has enacted sensible and quick regulations. Found this website regulations.ai.

    I believe / hope that AI pushes the abilities humans need upwards. Like there is AI that can do character animation, but you still need a motion choreographer who interprets the script and tweaks the AI and has the words and thinking and creativity for character animation. Same for programming, you still need to design the shape of the program and unit tests and understand the architecture.

    But with every progress a larger percentage of people will be replaced and their labor not valuable any more. It’s either socialism and planned economy either with or without free market or bust.

    One hope I have is that we’ll also be able to use AI and advanced robotics for “subsistence living”. There are apparently humanoid robots for $6000 in China now. And once smartphones and AI are good enough you could use one as a “control module”. We might also build robots much easier out of wood and servos in the future, because other machine learning models allow control of very “imprecise” robots. And then if we’re not prevented by IP law “we” as individual or groups of people could also directly benefit from the free labor. And the more advanced these AI models become, the more we could liberating ourselves from wage slavery.


  • Thanks, fair enough. If you want to hear my (shitty) take:

    With the Chinese releasing “frontier models” like the 2.8 trillion parameter Kimi K3 I do not believe a true monopoly is possible, unless IP law is extended to prevent open weight models to protect them from competition and make running local LLMs without paying a license fee illegal. Which does seem likely in the western world, but not in the rest.

    I am not sure how much exactly the proclaimed intent or ideology matters vs gaining power or money. Basically what they write on their banners. But I do think it can matter quite a bit e.g. “socialism with Chinese characteristics” has done much good for the people, or even Iran’s theocracy which I don’t like but which has principles, even though they are obviously far from perfect. Generally I prefer people who believe in something, really anything, to neoliberals who believe in nothing.

    So I don’t expect Anthropic to be paragons of humanism and communism either. And this connection is relatively mild. Hustlers gonna hustle. Very few capitalists would flinch at taking investments from questionable sources. So I would still support Anthropic with their “constitution” as the potentially better alternative to OpenAI or SpaceX. At least until they go public and forget to “not be evil”.




  • I was sarcastic. Maybe I’m being a bit unfair today.

    But while fuckai is busy beating the drum for intellectual property expansion, a non-capitalist state like China has regulated their AI preventing workers being replaced by AI or regulating emotionally addictive companion bots. Meanwhile I have not heard a single actionable demand for regulation from fuckai.

    So there is a problem with capitalists abusing AI. There is no problem fundamentally with LLMs themselves, they are just tools. They could be amazing to help with economic planning because it could allow to parse democratic input from millions of people.

    IP laws are very much a tool of imperialist oppression. Patents are outright genocide, preventing rapid adoption of new technologies to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. And ultimately the IP argument will lead to open weight models becoming “illegal”, monopolizing the “means of generation” and advanced robotics in the hands of the plutocrats. That is going to be “it” for the future of humanity then. They are going to pay a pittance in “general license costs”, replace more and more labor, while you can try to pirate an open source model to use this emergent technological power yourself.