TLDR: please read Against Empire by Michael Parenti

What would it look like if one wanted to believe the narrative of the most destructive and most parasitic country the world has ever seen against its designated enemy targets?

Remember this country is responsible for:

• coups, assasination of leaders and electoral interference in most of the countries of the Global South
• the most direct wars
• the most proxy wars
• Military encriclement of all its designated enemies
• sanctions (half a million deaths per year as per Lancet)
• enforcing economic Shock Doctrine wherever it can
• funding and propping up fascist regimes whereever it can (remember the original 9-11 was the coup and murder against Allende)
• racketeering all over the global south if they dont bend the knee to IMF structural changes, which itself causes massive localised underdevelopment, human superexploitation, and resource extraction for US benefit. Read it as mass social murder of millions of brown folks. Every fucking year.
• colour revolutions
• propping up NGOs all over the global south to destablise them
• 700 military bases around the world to police this
• funding, arming and giving a political cover to genocide in Palestine as we speak

And more by the only country to drop nuclear bombs on civilian populations. Twice.

No other country in the history of the world comes close to the barbarism.

And that’s just outside of its borders. Let’s not get into the mass incacerations of the descendants of the slaves it built its wealth on, the ongoing mass poverty, food insecurity, the world’s most expensive police state, the mass surveillance, the child labour, the concentration camps of migrant workers, the daily lynchings by its civil society, the monthly public school masacres due to a degnerate culture of patriarchy and racism, the forcing the orginal peoples of the land to reservations where the life expectancy is 40 years, the ongoing redlining, mass medical bankruptcies etc etc.

Whereas China: https://thetricontinental.org/studies-1-socialist-construction/

Think about the people in that article^. Are they truly less free than the folks in the paragraph before the link?

Others (and I above) have given resources to links why what you said about China is wrong. The problem with that approach is you have already bought into the narrative of the US empire of its designated enemy. I instead will point you in the direction that the US empire is way way worse than even the likes of what Chomsky let’s on:

• Washington Bullets - Prashad
• Blackshirts and Reds - Parenti
• Patriots, Traitors and Empires - Gowan
• Killing Hope - Blum
• Against Empire - Parenti

Let’s start with where we agree with: US = bad. Then please consider reading the above 5 books. Then maybe, just maybe one day in the future there is a sliver of hope you may consider why the “neither washington nor beijing” is still very much pro-washington.

Yeah, as a westerner on the global stage I am asking you to engage in class betrayal.

Best of luck.

Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds; applies to institutions too.

https://mronline.org/2021/02/18/role-of-ngos-in-promoting-neo-colonialism/

The west doesn’t care about the Chinese or muslims but we are supposed to believe they care about Chinese muslims. Please let me know how many countries with a minority (Uyghur muslims as the example here) population have their languages on their currency and actively promotes their culture significantly (like drawing in tourism), skyrocketing of HDI and then gets accused of whatever you are doing here.

The thing with the neither Washington nor Beijing schtick is that it is tantamount support of western atrocity propaganda; you want to believe Western lies as you have already decided on a hierarchy of human beings and denigrate those who stand against Western imperialism. If you know you have been lied to about every Western Designated Enemy since WWII but choose to believe current ones then you ain’t brainwashed, just bigoted.

I don’t remember reading that one - will put it on my reading list!

There is no one good resource for marxist analysis but if I had to pick one (anglophone) then it would be Redsails. Frome and Malone are also excellent to follow on twitter too (and also reading old Day threads too as he’s taking a break from social media).

Thanks but I forgot where I got it from; maybe one of the Redsails.org crew. Spectre suggested maybe Wisecrack videos but I am not so sure (see my other comment) - if I did then I have interpreted it a different way.

Just went through both of them but they both seem to be the opposite of what I am alluding to?

They both appear to convey the problems of capitalism by putting the idea before the material; ie they conceptualise a “religion of capitalism” that provides the ideology (workers in the first video through Calvinism and politican/bankers in the second video through “neoliberalism”) that causes the material woes, in the second video they mention “neoliberal priests” in Wall Street and Washington enforcing their religion on the masses.

The above is not marxist (or at best it’s the Frankfurt school western variety); it is not dialectical materialist.

The material always comes first. The economic reality produced the material conditions that shaped how calvinism (first video) was interpreted and practised, Calvin’s vestiges of feudal apologism was reappropriated for capital in the so-called protestant work ethic (I personally think the latter is a load of nonsense as if Christians of other denominations or non-christians don’t have a “work ethic” exemplified by the superexploitation of the Global South - this concept has been popularised by western supremacists self-claimed historians like Nial Ferguson).

Furthemore, in reality the state (supposedly) intervenes to maintain markets in the neoliberal conception of governance because of capital’s constraint on governance not the other way round.

Capital has been reified and effectively deified and it is these material constraints of such an economic system that acts as a cultural sieve for any religious or secular practice.

There’s a reason why the above distinction is important; one can’t solve this through an invidualised (think your way out of it, or the masses think their way out of it) or electoralism (vote for better politicians, have regulations to have better bankers etc) - it requires a systemic change with a dictatorship against capital, getting rid of individuals without changing the dictatorship (for capital to against it) will just mean just that there are new folks who are now constrained by the limits of capital (and any new athiesm then just resolves to the defense of capital - getting rid of religion does not solve the contradictions of capital).

Hope that helped :)

I don’t recall; which one?

Captialists are but priests thst serve at the altar of capital.

This presumes that the “right wing” as a group in question once truly understands this paradigm will change their mind.

Unlikely.

They understand it is in their material interests to align with Mr Crown in the meme to squeeze the “other” as they will get a more of a share of that cumbs left for the non-crowns. Why? Because they have ample examples over the past century that “their” paradigm works instead.

The material always comes before the idea.