Even if that’s true, I’m predicting either AI companies just buy all of that too. Or the US government doesn’t allow the import of it because it’s from China
We could always just not, and use whatever RAM we can get. I’d rather have a thriving market with slightly worse RAM than motherboards that require a RAM no one can afford.
Nope it is for legacy systems which are not upgraded to new standard.
“Of course, today’s PCs don’t use DDR2, so we’re likely to see the impact of these price increases landing in areas like embedded systems, networking equipment, industrial controllers, automotive electronics, and other long-lived devices that were designed around it and are too costly to requalify on newer memory generations like DDR4 and five.”
There is literally zero incentive for companies to make ram and sell it cheap. The market is used to current prices, and by 2030 current prices will be looked at as cheap.
China will not collapse. It produces too many goods and its economy is too strong. Birth rates aren’t a problem to the point that they undermine manufacturing.
If someone tries to tell you the story that China will collapse and they seem credible, just reach out to me. I have a bridge for sale that will help you short the Chinese collapse.
And if they’re not as xenophobic as some other countries I could mention, they could easily solve the population issue through immigration.
Every Chinese book I’ve read screams at me nationalism and xenophobia, be it modern fantasy, 50 years old detective series or comedy.
And immigration to China is - currently - heavily restricted. Like damn heavily. And you will not become a permanent resident, and there is literally 0 chance of becoming a citizen, unless you’re of Han Chinese descent, preferably first generation, preferably looking Chinese, and you can’t have dual nationality (from last census in 2020 about 17.000 people ever got a citizenship, which is what. 0.0012% of population? And the permanent residency in 2017 was about 10k total).
My country, Poland (about 38m people), grants more than that every year.
We’ll let the runaway inflation after the AI crash eat away at the currency’s value until RAM is back at the old value, even with the much higher prices, then wait for wages to catch up a bit. By then they’ll have a nice unsold supply.
Nah they’re saying the like 3 places that manufacture RAM won’t drop their prices after
The Chinese fabs should be producing lots of RAM by 2030.
Even if that’s true, I’m predicting either AI companies just buy all of that too. Or the US government doesn’t allow the import of it because it’s from China
Isn’t it all from china already?
Sucks to be american then
AI won’t last past 2028.
Old/current ram or new ram? Probably be moving on to DDR6 then
DDR5 will probably stick around for a long time if DDR6 is not affordable.
I’m still on DDR4 and it does what I need it to.
We could always just not, and use whatever RAM we can get. I’d rather have a thriving market with slightly worse RAM than motherboards that require a RAM no one can afford.
DDR2 Prices are up 60% as AI datacenters are slapping together whatever hardware they can get.
There is NO affordable RAM, and this is by design.
Nope it is for legacy systems which are not upgraded to new standard.
“Of course, today’s PCs don’t use DDR2, so we’re likely to see the impact of these price increases landing in areas like embedded systems, networking equipment, industrial controllers, automotive electronics, and other long-lived devices that were designed around it and are too costly to requalify on newer memory generations like DDR4 and five.”
I doubt that, ASML won’t suddenly flood china with lithography machines.
There is literally zero incentive for companies to make ram and sell it cheap. The market is used to current prices, and by 2030 current prices will be looked at as cheap.
China will be running out of people soon. Their birth rate has been in collapse.
1.4 billion people will disappear in just 3 years?
China will not collapse. It produces too many goods and its economy is too strong. Birth rates aren’t a problem to the point that they undermine manufacturing.
If someone tries to tell you the story that China will collapse and they seem credible, just reach out to me. I have a bridge for sale that will help you short the Chinese collapse.
The problem is they modify goods, not produce them.
Intellectual property shouldn’t exist. If China wants to “steal” ram designs and sell them for cheaper, then LeT tHe fReE mArKeT wOrK
That’s a wholly different topic.
That’s simply not how the current economy works.
China makes cars that no one else can
They assemble cars from parts sourced externally.
But they’ll still have plenty of people by 2030.
And if they’re not as xenophobic as some other countries I could mention, they could easily solve the population issue through immigration.
Every Chinese book I’ve read screams at me nationalism and xenophobia, be it modern fantasy, 50 years old detective series or comedy.
And immigration to China is - currently - heavily restricted. Like damn heavily. And you will not become a permanent resident, and there is literally 0 chance of becoming a citizen, unless you’re of Han Chinese descent, preferably first generation, preferably looking Chinese, and you can’t have dual nationality (from last census in 2020 about 17.000 people ever got a citizenship, which is what. 0.0012% of population? And the permanent residency in 2017 was about 10k total).
My country, Poland (about 38m people), grants more than that every year.
Yeah, but if they started right now I bet they could pump out some new adults inside of 20 years.
They literally can’t.
Their birth rate is “In collapse” because they already have a gigantic population that is too big.
You mean the companies that formed a cartel 20 years ago might do the same again? Couldn’t be.
We’ll let the runaway inflation after the AI crash eat away at the currency’s value until RAM is back at the old value, even with the much higher prices, then wait for wages to catch up a bit. By then they’ll have a nice unsold supply.
People that think there’s going to be an AI crash are in for a rough future. The genie is out of its bottle and it’s never going back in.
You may as well be saying that there’s going to be an EV crash.
EV crash, he he.
Nailed it