• zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    This part really stuck out for me:

    This is the latest example of a strange marketing strategy by AI companies. Instead of selling products based on helpful features and letting users decide, executives often deploy scare tactics that essentially warn people they will become obsolete if they don’t get on the AI bandwagon.

    If hype doesn’t work, try threats!

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      1 year ago

      Which is how you know they have a good product that they have full faith in.

      when they have to blackmail, threaten, coerce, and force people to accept their product.

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    1 year ago

    Bro you are literally not necessary, not even the best at what you do. See everyone on codeberg.

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    I got stuck today in a part of my workplace where they have one of the local shitty radio stations playing, couldn’t have my headphones in as people kept coming up and talking to me, and a shitty pop music mashup plays and it struck me, this is AI.

    To clarify there is some shitty artist who gets the credit, but its just a selection of clips crossfaded and slightly processed into each other to make a new “song” out of a dozen pop songs. No actual creativity, no new material, just a quasi algorithmic blending of songs so that some soulless talentless grifter can claim they are an artist.

    It gets deeper though, as mixed in there are songs that couldn’t actually be performed live and acoustic due to the amount of sound engineering and vocal processing that went into the original versions of these songs.

    The whole thing is turning into an Ouroboros, they have worked out how to make perfectly bland, meaningless music and now the snake is eating its tail as the industry consumes that slop to manufacture more slop.

    Yet deeper, why does this beige bullshit get air time… Why its our old friend capitalist market forces, no one passionate about music wants to make this shit, its the people who want the fame and money and view music as the means to that end.

    We know that AI makes people dumber, we know that it leads to the atrophy of skill and talent, and we know the only motivation for its use is capitalist. AI is pop music.

    For what its worth I used italics on AI as I categorically refuse to believe this garbage is actually artificial intelligence. I am reasonably certain that actual artificial intelligence is the next fusion power, it’s going to be “only a few years away” from being viable until well after I die, but its just too good a marketing term to leave it alone while we make do with these stunted chinese rooms.

    Wow that rant blew up.

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      Ahh down votes in lieu of a substantive argument. Love it. If there wasn’t a thread to pull on in all that word salad that would unravel the tapestry do you think maybe there’s something to my take on this matter?

      Anyway, don’t care, this isn’t Reddit so a downvote doesn’t mean shit, and you at least read some of my post. To quote a somewhat famous Doctor “Don’t you think she looks tired?”

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      Tell me you’ve never written a song without telling me you’ve never written a song…

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        Maybe I am misreading your comment here, but I am going to take it on face value, I have never written a song. In an interesting note I believe cutting pages out of a bunch of books and sticking them together in a new binding wouldn’t make a compelling read, I also have never written a novel.

        I seriously respect people who can write songs, I would imagine they have or had passion for the art. I seriously doubt any song writer is out there thinking "Holy fuck this song is amazing, I really hope some shithead producer crops the chorus and mashes it together with a bunch of other tracks to make it completely meaningless. That would make it perfect.’

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    I don’t get it. AI is a tool. My CEO didn’t care about what tools I use, as long as I got the job done. Why do they suddenly think they have to force us to use a certain tool to get the job done? They are clueless, yet they think they know what we need.

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      Because unlike with the other tools you use the CEO of your company is investing millions of dollars into AI and they want a big return on their investment.

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        Return? No, there is no return on investment from AI. If there really was a return to be had from Devs, you wouldn’t have to force them to use it.

        This is a saving face and covering their asses exercise. Option 1 is “We spent the money, nobody’s using it, the bubbles gonna burst”, the other choice is “if we can ramp up the usage numbers before the earnings call, we can get some of that sweet investor money to buy us out of being mauled by our shareholders”.

        It’s shitty management, making shitty decisions to cover up their previous shitty decisions

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          That’s the point though. These CEOs don’t know that there is not going to be an “AI revolution”. They all think they are getting in on the ground floor of the next Google or Facebook. They genuinely believe that these “AI’s” are going to revolutionize the Internet.

          That’s exactly why Elmo went from “AI is too dangerous and development on it must be stopped” to “I’m gonna built the best AI ever and I’ll call it Grok cause I want everyone to think I’m a relatable sci-fi nerd.”

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        I don’t think these CEOs have quite figured out that LLM developers are creating something that can more easily replace a CEO than a developer.

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      GitHub is owned by Microsoft, and Microsoft is forcing AI on all the employees

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        Honestly I’ve been recommending setting up a personal git store and cloning any project you like, I imagine the next phase of this is Microsoft making a claim that if Copilot ‘assisted’ all these projects, Microsoft is a part owner of all these projects - in a gambit to swallow and own open source.

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      They are clueless, yet they think they know what we need.

      AI make money line go up. It’s not clueless, he’s trying to sell a kind of snake oil (ok, not “snake oil”, I don’t think AI is entirely bad).

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    Daily reminder that Codeberg is always the good alternative to corporate bastards like this idiot

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    Wait so you guys choose to sit and code something for a month instead of for a day? I don’t have that kinda time and I need to make money fast. What took me a month now takes me a day. AI has reduced my workload by 90%

    Fuck manual typing and muscle memory and hundreds of hours infront of a screen. Only 0.43% of the population can write code. I am safe. I will never lose the ability and my services will always be needed.

    At the rate that ppl are now developing programs you WILL be left in the dark ages typing everything manually. I have a wife to please and adventures that await.

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      Ban AI. Completely.

      That is really short sighted. We all know it is not AI. The marketing is such bullshit.

      But we also know that predictive algorithms can be useful. For instance: digitizing a property line, or identifying features in a lidar cloud, or discovering anomalies in blood cells. Then there are prediction tests and what if scenarios.

      Seems like this is the same argument people had about computers in general. Ban all computers they said. Who knows maybe this guy in 1968 was right all along. and computers are the problem.

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        Hey moron, computers by themselves aren’t oftem dangerously wrong and do not severely impact our environmemt with every brain-dead query. Not to mention horribly violate copyright.

        I swear to fuck, every time some horrible technology comes along, there are people like you who compare wanting it thrown away with being a complete luddite. It shows your horrible bias and either blind devotion to mega-corporations or your affiliation with one (or more).

        Either way: be silent. AI must be destroyed.

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          You are proving my point. Thanks.

          And while I am thinking about it…people like you make all of this worse. You have no idea what you are talking about, including insulting me over something I was not saying at all. But you keep being a loudmouth and tell people to be silent. I was not defending any of the negatives of using computers, but relating how YES people complained about them all the way back then, and to some degree the argument never changed.

          But you have to realize: using algorithyms (again there is no such thing as AI right now) is not the problem. It is marketing, how people use it without a clue, and corporations. Gee we actually have some things in common.

          But then you have to be a dick, and then I begin to not give a shit.

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            How much are you making on GenAI, kid?

            Or are you just a lazy student?

            Either way, you have no idea how dangerous GenAI is to, well, everything. Our ability to think, work, and our environment. If you argue against that, you’re simply either ignorant or malicious. Either way, fuck off and let the adults talk.

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              When you grow up and become an adult we can talk. You clearly have no idea.

              Same thing they said about computers like I said…

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    Threatening remarks like that are why I learned PHPUnit and XDebug, and yeah it made me become a better developer, but often times these are just empty statements.

    AI is just another tool in my toolbox, but it’s not everything.

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      Unit testing and TDD are awesome; but if you can avoid it: Don’t write things in PHP (unless it’s for work).

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        I’ve written a few personal projects in Laravel too, I don’t mind modern PHP tbh. It’s good for spinning up web apps quickly.

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    Sounds like a desperate tactic to show value to investors who are skeptical of all the insane level of cap ex… not to mention all the customers who don’t want to pay for this garbage

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    While I don’t wish for this future, I do look forward to being one of the few that truly understands the ‘old way’ of computing like many here on Lemmy. All that knowledge I spent my youth acquiring may very well become insanely valuable in the next few decades because so many people will treat it as irrelevant.

    I’ll feel a lot like this: