• kahjtheundedicated@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    It’s pretty much just 0 is really cold and 100 is really hot as far as weather goes. Besides that it feels pretty arbitrary. I’m a metric stan, but I do still think Fahrenheit is pretty good for talking about the weather.

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      2 months ago

      That’s pretty damn subjective lol. At least the zero point (something important to people living in countries where it falls down to that) gives off useful info.

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        2 months ago

        All numbers are arbitrary until you relate them to reality. This whole debate is fucking stupid vibe checks on how people feel about meaningless numbers, because the temperature is the temperature whether it’s -40 or 233, or 420.

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          2 months ago

          I mean the zero point of Celsius isn’t a vibe in the same way as “pretty cold, pretty hot” or however people describe Fahrenheit. It actually means something to real life that it gets to zero or goes negative. 100C is for most people much less useful tbf.

          But mainly it’s about what you’re used ofc. I just hate the nonsense thing about Fahrenheit being better that is about vibes alone

          • LurkingLuddite@piefed.socialBanned
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            Fahrenheit does have a relation to reality: Where salt water freezes.

            The fact you dumbasses don’t even know the basics of the system you criticize says a lot… Fucking team sports morons. Now re-read what I said before you eat your foot again.

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              2 months ago

              The argument isn’t made that Fahrenheit is great because it goes from salt water freezing being 0 to something else. The argument was the vibe that 0 cold 100 hot

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                And what are 0 and 100 in Celsius but arbitrarily tied to H2O? Salt water and human biology are also physical phenomenon, if slightly more arbitrary. A species based on any other such liquid chemistry (like methane for Titan, etc) would equally be confused on the arbitrary choice of H2O.

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                  2 months ago

                  I think you are a bit confused. Above people were saying how great Fahrenheit is for 0-100 being “cold for humans and hot for humans”. That’s the vibe argument.

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            It’s literally a vibe… 0 is an arbitrary number just as much as 32, 69 or 420 is. Your just up your own ass like most people are when it comes to C vs F. Both systems suck, both systems are fucking retarded, both systems are entirely bullshit vibes based nonsense till you give them an arbitrary attachment point to something.

            They are literally by definition relative scales. It’s literally worthless nonsense with out a reference point. And in that regard F and C are literally the EXACT same thing. One just has a more fine scale while the other is more coarse.

            The only scale that isn’t 100% vibes based is kelvin.

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              2 months ago

              The comparison was to “pretty cold for a human”. That’s a lot more vibey than “it’s when water freezes”. That’s at least something solid (heh).

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                2 months ago

                0 F is when a brine formula freezes at sea level. It’s not any more vibey. The utility is vibey, but that’s almost always the case.

                However, neither 0F or 0C are actually defined as what we say. 0F is not the freezing point of brine, and 0C is not the freezing point of water. They’re defined in terms of Kelvin, which is not vibey.

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            2 months ago

            0 in F also means something very specific. Celsius isn’t any better at that. If you want something that actually means 0 at 0 then use Kelvin. If you aren’t, both have an equal basis in reality.

            The scale of values is just better for human experience in F. It has more integer values in the range of values humans experience.

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              What specific thing does it mean that would relate to your real, daily life?

              The scale of values is just better for human experience in F. It has more integer values in the range of values humans experience.

              Huh? What does that even mean and why it has to specifically be integer values??

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                It didn’t say something that relates to my real daily life, only something real. Anyway, 0°F is the freezing point of brine at sea level. That is relevant because our blood is essentially brine, if we want to stretch things. The freezing point of water at sea level isn’t exactly useful unless we’re working with water at sea level.

                Integers are easier to write. We never have to use decimals with F since we have plenty of integers. Yes, you can use decimals, but we’re discussing ease of use. If you can’t recognize that not needing them is easier then you’re not being honest.

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                  I guess you don’t live anywhere where it snows then. Knowing whether water freezes at sea level is very impactful since a majority of people on the planet live pretty close to sea level, knowing when my blood freezes seems really useless.

                  Also no one uses decimals with C° unless it’s a medical situation or similar. There’s so many factors that you can’t tell the difference between 17° and 18° anyway, regardless of F° or C°

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              Why are you insisting on integers? Why are you scared of decimals? They are perfectly easy to use and provides a much wider range of scale than your arbitrary 0-100 scale does.