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        The way I understand it, the main thing for incels is that their celibacy is involuntary. They think they’re entitled to sex, and anyone not having sex with them is to blame for their misery. So being a rapist is precisely on brand for them, sadly.

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          The celibacy still has to exist. You could perhaps say that incels are aspiring sex criminals, but once you become a sex criminal, you’re no longer an incel.

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            Incel ideology has expanded past the literal “involuntarily celibate” definition. One can be an incel without being a virgin:

            Incel rhetoric invokes an idealized patriarchal society in which couples adhered to traditional gender roles, married early, and were strictly monogamous. During this mythologized “golden age”, incels imagine that all men had nearly unencumbered access to women as romantic partners, thereby reducing the competition for sex.[12][61][62] Incels often disagree about precisely when this golden age occurred, but they concur that it was gradually destroyed by feminism, the sexual revolution, women’s liberation, and technological progress.[61] As a result, incels tend to blame both women and the feminist movement for their inability to find a partner.[12][63] A 2025 study found involuntary celibacy was associated with criticism of liberalism. Incels were overwhelmingly found to be illiberal, supporting a more “just” traditional past in which men, as a social group, enjoyed a more privileged status. Stemming from this view, incels express strong aversion towards social outgroups that challenge men’s position: these groups namely include modern women, feminism, and the overall liberal, inclusive, pluralistic society as a whole that allows for the prominence of these outgroups.[64]

            Incel discourse is characterized by resentment and hatred, self-pity, hostile sexism, anti-feminism, racism, sexual objectification and dehumanization of women, misogyny, misanthropy, and nihilism.[10] Discussions often revolve around the belief that men are entitled to sex from women.[73][67][74][75] In the incel worldview, the only solution to male sexlessness is a rigidly patriarchal social structure encompassing enforced monogamy and the elimination of women’s rights, thereby increasing women’s dependency on men.[80] Some incels also advocate for sexual slavery, legalized rape, punishment for female promiscuity, redistribution of women, and violence against feminists.[80][63]

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      He isn’t but all the losers who follow him and gave him money are. I’m surprised he doesn’t face charges of fraud for some of that stuff.

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    Anyone in a position to speculate how he might get on in prison? Traditionally sex offenders get a hard time from other inmates, but I’ve a sneaking suspicion than manosphere toxic masculinity shit might be quite popular there, and he’s shown to be quite expert at manipulating vulnerable young men.

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      It’ll be a numbers game and all it takes is one shiv for the world to be a better place.

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    Hope that water makes you more sick. Have a horrible life you worthless fame seeking loser.

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    This guy is so over the top he’s always seemed like a parody of the manosphere to me. How anyone ever took him seriously is beyond me.

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      They’re being extradited to the UK for a long string of charges up to and including possession of kiddie porn if the latest news is accurate.

      We don’t look kindly on that shit here in the UK. They go to special prisons, as regular inmates of all stripe shiv kiddie fiddlers as a matter of pride. Not a great thing really, I know, but I admit a pang of satisfaction nonetheless.

      So yeah, their reception here will be an enthusiastic one, I’m sure.

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        Andrew Tate is facing something like 42 charges at the moment and his brother another 17. For things like rape, human trafficking, possession of indecent images of children. Assuming these pieces of shit are deported they’re like to be in prison for a substantial period of time. Wouldn’t be surprised if they’re held without bail before the trial and then get enjoy lengthy sentences after it.

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          Money and power always escape the laws that bind the rest of us plebs. Have you learned nothing? 💛

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        regular inmates of all stripe shiv kiddie fiddlers as a matter of pride.

        Oh no!
        Anyway…