The China-centric video sharing platform is expanding with a new international app and an English version of its website – with no identity verification (for now at least)

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      1 month ago

      Considering how much damage Google et al do, I legitimately wonder whether China could even do worse, and I’m not even a tankie.

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        Not terribly interested in this video platform as I also don’t use YouTube. I really hope Google gets broken up and I don’t like them harvesting my data and selling it to the US Government any more than I like companies like Bytedance selling my data to the Chinese Government. I am in the US and think we should have established data privacy and data protection laws long before things got to the point they have gotten too.

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          How do you do that? I would love to be able to avoid YouTube. I could go without the entertainment part of it, sure. But no more tutorials would already be a big pain. And then there are the news sites with embedded videos. Even the state uses it.

          YouTube has single handedly almost nullified my degoogling project

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            If I have a project, I often prefer to read up on how to accomplish the task, such as going to blog posts or getting to the source documentation. If that is not possible, I use yewtu.be (it can be slow to load just FYI). There is also PeerTube, but it doesn’t have as much content. Lastly, there is FreeTube, which is built on YouTubes API and gives them revenue in some way, but doesn’t have ads. It doesn’t allow Google to learn your behavior or target you for ads. I also use a VPN (with DNS protection enabled) when loading anything. If you’re degoogling (as I and many have done), one other item I hear people say they have difficulty dropping is Google Maps. I know you didn’t ask about it, but just to add, other options exist, such as Open Street Maps (OSM), Organic Maps, CoMaps, Magic Earth (I think may be built on Google Maps API, but not entirely sure), and Kagi (I’m fairly sure it uses Apple Maps and Google Maps API). Also, I have just started looking into FlockHopper, but I’m not sure what it is built on, I think OSM and MapBox (not sure if I have that right), but I’m not sure. Also MapQuest still exists.

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              Youtube is about the last Alphabet service I knowingly use (except when someone shares a google doc).
              I thought you meant no Youtube at all. I use Freetube and Newpipe almost exclusively.
              Peertube too, when the instance I use to follow channels works (the two previous ones closed). It’s a pain to subscribe to stuff. Maybe with RSS feeds…

              edit: I’ve been subscribed to Kagi for a while too, maybe going two years. Love it. Wish it was cheaper

              I really liked Qwant maps, a good use of OSM, but the idiots closed it…

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        Don’t fall for the proximity bias, china is decades ahead on surveillance and stepping on personal rights. They act as a hive. They care more for what they believe that are they nationals and may look harmless to us non-chinese… but i do fear them.

        In any case, I dont see them pressing a button to launch swarms of AI commanded drones to kill every person on a partially AI generated list that they probably already have in their hands, right now… i leave that dystopia to israel alone.

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          and stepping on personal rights.

          The racial make-up of the prison population suggests that the lead is not that big.

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          The US has the largest prison population on the planet but China is the one stepping on people’s rights?

          I get that the CCP sucks ass but come on. As far as I’m concerned YouTube needs a serious competitor, it’s not like I’m moving to Shenzhen or something. YouTube is a complete and utter shithole.

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        As far as I’m aware, google isn’t enacting a genocide… as far as I’m aware

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        China makes palantir look like freedom respecting software.

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      Sure, but I’d rather have my info safely offshore in China than to give it right to big brother. I also bet far far fewer ads and more fun commercials because you have no idea what they are about. They are currently destoyjng the natural order in printer ink. I support that wholeheartedly. My Epson inks are 90 and the knockoffs are 20 and work just as well. It’s always temporarily beneficial when player 2 enters the market.

      *Edit it does not like vpns. That’s a no for me.

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          But China isn’t going to sell my data to Uncle Sam to help deport my family. So there’s that.

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              Who is more of a direct threat to US citizens ? At the moment I would say there’s way more chance ICE will come after you for posting or speaking out or protesting or hell just being you. I can’t remember the last time I worried about China selling me something because that’s what they will use the data for.

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                I’d say China is the greatest threat to U.S. sovereignty but that’s a discussion no one here seems to want to have. No one seems to think TikTok is an issue apparently.

                Edit: it’s been an issue since musical.ly, just so we’re clear

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              Not absolutely sure… but I’ll take “Probably wouldn’t” over “Definitely already does.”

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        This is one thing I noticed using Chinese social media. There are almost zero discussions of local politics. Foreign politics is fine though

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          Are you seriously insinuating that the level of censorship on YouTube is anywhere close to Chinese platforms? A quick look on both websites would give you that answer very quickly.