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    The history of consumer computing is just looking at all the different ways Nvidia has figured out how to fuck said consumers over

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      Remember when we had to have a secondary nvidia GPU just to play games?

      Remember all of the fucky hacks, install orders, and workarounds we needed to make it work when our main GPU was an AMD card?

      Or when it was leaked for the 3rd time that nvidia was paying devs to make their game run worse on AMD hardware?

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      I don’t think they really are out to fuck consumers so much as they are an after after thought.

      The consumer space just isn’t able to pay what companies are paying and so in the words of Don Draper - ‘I don’t think about you at all’

      What is a bit of a dick move is their consumer division paying lip service and pretending like they matter to the company at all.

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        I think it’s rather telling that there’s not a single company that’s touching any of these currently insanely overpriced products and going, you know? I think I’m going to prioritize the human customers over the business customers. Sure, we may not make as much money, but we would have truckloads of goodwill and generate thousands of lifelong customers.

        And I understand the business reasoning for that, but great businesses are not built by bean counters any more than wars are decided by bullet rations.

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          Man… The way I see it is if you nail down a small corner of the market, you’ve won. Like yeah, you’ve only got 15%, but holy wah you have 15% all to yourself and that 15% is dedicated to you. That’s a great outcome. Probably why I’m not a CEO.

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      Well, I guess I’ll just buy my hardware from a different supplie-

      sound of twin-engine B-52 Tariff Bomber zooming overhead, as wallet buster economic sanctions whistle towards their targets

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    I can’t believe the company pulling through with affordable but powerful graphics cards is Intel.

    This is like the season 1 bad guy joining forces against a greater evil.

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      AMD does the exact same as Nvidia. They’re just less successful with it. It doesn’t really matter who you buy from in that regard, I think.

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        AMD doesn’t gate the high vram to be only their top end model. They have generally higher vram across the board.

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          They did but do their latest cards have an option for 24gb like my 7900xtx?

          I like them for Linux support but I don’t doubt they would start doing the same crap if they could break CUDAs strangle hold on the ML LLM space

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            I don’t know. I’m still using my 7900XT with 20GB. For my home server I just bought an Intel Arc Pro B70 32GB.

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          Whether that’s important or not is your choice as a consumer. If you use Blender for example, Nvidia gives you more bang for your buck. It just works much better with those cards. That’s simply what the spread sheets say. If you need slightly higher VRAM for different reasons go for something else.

          But that’s completely besides the argument. Whatever you choose doesn’t change the fact that neither of those companies gives a shit about us end consumers. They’re barely making any money from us compared to AI companies. They’re all in on AI.

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        yeah the main reason AMD isn’t quite as price-gouged is that ROCm isn’t quite as in demand as CUDA for non-gaming uses for GPUs.

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          Lisa Su has also been cozying up to Trump to try and accelerate data center construction.

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    Yet people keeps buying their product. It’s almost as if voting with your wallet is all that’ll ever work.

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        Yet all people I hear have bought new computers in the last 15 years (very few exceptions) somehow has Nvidia cards.

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          I went AMD when I bought my new computer 3 years ago! (Not that they’re much better at all!)

          Hoping cheap Chinese GPUs and RAM catch up soon!

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                The country of the Great Firewall actually making free and open computing possible in the World at a time were most supposed Democracies are closing it all down claiming it’s “for the sake of the children” or “to protect us from Terrorism” or some other thin self-serving excuse for expanding civil society surveillance, would truly be the ultimate role-reversal.

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      Billionaires love when you think you can only vote with your wallet. They have many, many more votes than you. Nvidia doesn’t give two shits about your wallet compared to the ones paying them to fill datacenters.

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      voting with your wallet

      I’m terrified how many people think buying and selling stuff is moral, civic, and democratic duty. Econ 101 doesn’t even work in economics, why are we applying it to everything?

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      The sales of consumer GPUs make up a veeeery tiny percentage of nvidias revenue. Nvidia could stop selling consumer GPUs tomorrow and it wouldn’t even make a noticeable dent in their revenues. And what other options do u really have? Any other company ain’t much better.

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        Nowadays, yes. Wasn’t this way 10-15 years ago. I’ve been against their practices enough to not buy their product these last 20 years, which feels like a very lonely hill to die on.

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      We don’t have the money to back up our vote in this ‘election’. If you could even call it that. Capitalism isn’t a democratic process.

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      Doesn’t really help that they got an almost monopoly on the market (with the only competitors being as shitty and involved in the AI circlejerk just as much).

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        They’re rather near a monopoly indeed. Imagination, Mali and a few other (minor) competitors still exist, but I guess it wouldn’t be fair to begin comparing gaming performance…

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    More like pre 2025 and post 2025

    Nvidia always has been the biggest dick around hardware manufacturers

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      Yeah, but NVIDIA used to be at least somewhat affordable. Now it feels like you have to get a credit check in order to buy any type of their components.

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    I think I bought my gaming rig on whim with 32gig and Nvidia before the shitty RAM prices at least.

    Even in 24 or so it sucked how much of the total price the medium awesome gfx card was.

    How much is this now, do these cards exist? Artificial scarcity?

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    just orderd amd videcard 20 years nividia 4 difrant computers last one lasted 8 or 10 years 1060 ad now amd 7090 feels rong but fuck nividia not listing to gamers and going ale in on ai and data vcenters